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SDCCD Acting Chancellor Greg Smith gives an address at the San Diego City College convocation gathering, August 17, 2023. Photo courtesy of San Diego City College Flickr
SDCCD Acting Chancellor Greg Smith gives an address at the San Diego City College convocation gathering, August 17, 2023. Photo courtesy of San Diego City College Flickr
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Q&A: Acting SDCCD chancellor shares updates on City College, district goals

Greg Smith discusses progress on new district philosophy to policing, affordable student housing and other big-picture goals after his first summer on the job
SDCCD Acting Chancellor Greg Smith gives an address at the San Diego City College convocation gathering, August 17, 2023. Photo courtesy of San Diego City College Flickr

When Greg Smith, acting chancellor of the San Diego Community College District, arrived for San Diego City College’s Fall 2023 Convocation on August 17, he said he felt a familiar atmosphere particular to the campus.

“The energy at City College is unique,” he said.

Smith sat down with City Times after his semester-opening address to reflect on the notable social justice work being done at City, which is setting it apart from other colleges.

He discussed the district’s search for a permanent chancellor, progress toward the 2023-2030 District Strategic Plan and new policies addressing campus policing.

Other topics covered in the interview included the affordable student housing project, the lasting influence of COVID-19 on instruction and trends in enrollment across the district.

Smith will be hosting a Chancellor’s Forum open to faculty, staff, students and community members. The forum will be at City College on Oct. 2 from 2:30-4 p.m.

This interview has been edited and condensed for brevity and clarity.

SDCCD Acting Chancellor Greg Smith gives an address at the San Diego City College convocation gathering, August 17, 2023. Photo courtesy of San Diego City College Flickr
City College President Ricky Shabazz, left, and SDCCD Acting Chancellor Greg Smith, right, stand under the graduation ceremony archway at the San Diego City College commencement ceremony, May 25, 2023. Photo courtesy of San Diego City College Flickr
Q: As acting chancellor of the SDCCD, what have you found unique about City College?

A: “Well, first is the atmosphere walking onto this campus. I say it almost every time I come here for a meeting. The energy at City College is unique. And you can feel the energy of downtown as part of it for sure, but there is a level of social consciousness, awareness and a pursuit of social justice that I think defines this campus in ways that I don’t feel at other colleges that I’ve been to … People here and people looking at City College feel like this is a place where social change is happening. This is a transformative space. And that energy, it’s every time I come to this campus.”

City College President Ricky Shabazz, left, and SDCCD Acting Chancellor Greg Smith, right, stand under the graduation ceremony archway at the San Diego City College commencement ceremony, May 25, 2023. Photo courtesy of San Diego City College Flickr
Photo courtesy of San Diego City College Police
Q: In May, the district held a special study session on its policing practices. What are some things that came out of that meeting?

A:  “Our new Vice Chancellor for Operations, Enterprise Services and Facilities, Joel Peterson, who also oversees our police department, has set out a vision for the department to recognize themselves as educational employees first. You’re not law enforcement first and foremost … So a lot of the training has been geared towards, ‘How do you see yourself as part of an educational community first?’

“Part of that is an investment in expanding opportunities for students. So we’re exploring a student cadet program, where students who are interested in law enforcement as a career could experience that as part of … our community …  (and) would be part of the engagement with other students on each of our campuses.

“The other thing that we’re looking at is how we can invest resources in having more mental health professionals be able to respond to situations where we don’t need a law enforcement response at all. And too often someone experiencing drug addiction, alcohol addiction, mental health incidents end up interacting with somebody who’s there primarily to say, ‘Are you potentially going to become a violent threat that needs to be detained?’ Like no, this is a person who needs service right now. They need resources, they need medical attention. So we can get the right response when there isn’t that violent threat that we need to be worried about.”

Photo courtesy of San Diego City College Police
Google Earth screenshot of the proposed City College affordable student housing site on B and 16th streets, December 2, 2022. City expects to break ground on construction in fall 2023. Image ©2022 Google
Q: What’s the status of the City College affordable housing project?

A: “What they ultimately have done with the 23-24 budget is say, ‘You can issue revenue bonds,’ which means that basically, we sell debt to the public. The state will pay the interest on the bonds, but you’re going to repay the principal …What that ultimately means for students is we would have to put a higher price per unit (for rent) than what we wanted to. And we really would love to get to a 400-square-foot or so apartment for $600-700 a month in downtown San Diego.

“So we’re still working, advocating with legislators and others around, if state revenues in this next year exceed estimates, we would love to see them go back and say we’re going to repay the entire principle … Perhaps through a combination of advocacy with the state (and) through engaging with private philanthropy, we can close that loop and still hit the price point we want to hit.

“But either way, the City College project is going forward. We’re going to be breaking ground during the fall. I expect by 2025, we’ll have 800 or so new units available for students, affordable. But whatever that price point is, it’s going to be well below the market rate.”

Google Earth screenshot of the proposed City College affordable student housing site on B and 16th streets, December 2, 2022. City expects to break ground on construction in fall 2023. Image ©2022 Google (Marco Guajardo)
Ksenia LaRusse and Skyler Lingo discuss during class
Q: At your level, how have you seen curriculum shaped since we moved on from COVID-19?

A: “What I see from my level is that students are saying, ‘We want more flexibility in the way that we engage with instruction. It’s not that we absolutely want one kind. It’s depending on the class I’m taking, the subject, I may want different modality options.’ 

“It’s about choice for the students and them being able to tell us, ‘For this class, at this moment in time, this is what works best for me, and I want those options.’ So I think that the lasting legacy of COVID in this regard will be it forced us to do things online and other environments that we hadn’t previously with some courses and (we) learned it can be done really well. 

“Right now we’re letting enrollment dictate what percentage are we going to be online, in person, hybrid. The students are going to tell us. We open the sections, they sign up and say, ‘This is what we’re looking for right now.’”

Ksenia LaRusse, left, and Skyler Lingo discuss their work during Advanced Typography class at San Diego City College, March 16, 2022. Students combed through and referenced design albums as they progressed in their projects. Photo by Philip Salata/City Times Media
City College students line up at the Enrollment Services office on campus on the first day of the tropical storm-delayed fall 2023 semester, August 22, 2023. Long lines on City's campus have been rare occurrences since students returned to campus from the pandemic, but on this day, the district's PeopleSoft portal and Campus Solutions system were down, causing long lines like this one. Photo by Luke Bradbury/City Times Media
Q: A big story at the district is that enrollment increased 12%. To what do you attribute it?

A: “We did a lot of surveying of students over the course of the pandemic and there was absolutely a portion of our students who were forced to make a choice.

“But what I really think enrollment is a reflection of is how well we’re communicating the value of what we provide … and I think the pandemic was tough because we all got forced to shift into an environment that some people didn’t want, some people didn’t feel was the right modality for them. So we need to get back to telling people in the community what they can expect to experience as they come here, and changing who the target audience is in some ways. It’s not just about high school graduates that didn’t get into a CSU or UC … but helping adult learners understand that as industry is fundamentally being changed by technologies, this is where you can come up-skill to get a better job than you have right now. 

“We’ve launched some new marketing campaigns around that to get the word out, to engage with people a little bit differently. So seeing the 10-12% increase in enrollment this fall over last fall, I definitely would attribute part of it to people having the situation now where they can come back. But I do think that the efforts that we’ve made to communicate that value are starting to work as well.”

City College students line up at the Enrollment Services office on campus on the first day of the tropical storm-delayed fall 2023 semester, August 22, 2023. Long lines on City’s campus have been rare occurrences since students returned to campus from the pandemic, but on this day, the district’s PeopleSoft portal and Campus Solutions system were down, causing long lines like this one. Photo by Luke Bradbury/City Times Media ( Luke Bradbury)
Chancellor Greg Smith, center, poses with SDCCD district office staff at the district's flag raising ceremony during June's Pride Month, Thursday, June 1, 2023. Photo courtesy of SDCCD Flickr
Q: How was your first summer as acting chancellor? What kind of adjustments have been made?

A: “It’s been a very busy summer but a very exciting summer … To be out, front and center, leading that work in some ways, or on the backside identifying resources for others to lead that work, it’s just incredibly rewarding … It’s just really, really cool to be involved in helping 5,000 employees across our district do their best work on behalf of the 50,000 students that we’re expecting to come through our classes and programs this year.

“We had a number of priority legislative bills that were making their way through the process that we’ve been advocating for, continuing to make sure that we’re engaging with our legislators and helping them to understand the value of those to our district (and) meeting with some of our local community leaders, mayor, city council to help them understand priorities for the district. 

“And then a lot of work and planning for this year. The board approved our strategic plan through 2030 last year. So there’s a lot of work to be done at the district office to implement that plan.”

Chancellor Greg Smith, center, poses with SDCCD district office staff at the district’s flag raising ceremony during June’s Pride Month, Thursday, June 1, 2023. Photo courtesy of SDCCD Flickr
SDCCD Acting Chancellor Greg Smith gives an address at the San Diego City College commencement ceremony, May 25, 2023. Photo courtesy of San Diego City College Flickr
Q: What is your vision as acting chancellor to implement the district’s strategic plan?

A: “One of the most important aspects … over the course of the summer has been developing a vision for what successful strategic plan implementation looks like and principles to guide us in that work. And that vision being that we understand that community colleges exist primarily to serve people who are underserved by virtually every other education system there is. 

“It’s interesting being in a leadership position … you kind of look for these moments of, ‘Where do I find out that this is working or not?’ And part of it is people coming up and saying that it is. Part of it, you can see in the data … But mostly, for me, coming into this position at graduation season, hearing in different forums students tell their stories … it just brings it all immediately back home.

“When I think about how do I do my job, I start with where do we want to end up? What’s that vision of, where if we all did this really well, where would we be? I looked across the objectives and wanted to provide that clarity, feeling like as acting chancellor, I need to give that clarity to the presidents, the vice chancellors and then everybody working for the district of what’s the goal. Where are we going towards? And I really see all of it aligned with the idea that as we look at the full diversity of our students and communities that we serve – racial diversity, gender identity, socioeconomic status, cultural identities, that full diversity – every single one who comes in should feel like, ‘I can succeed here and this college, this person in this department is absolutely committed to my success.’… I want every single student to feel that. And so that’s kind of the vision.”

SDCCD Acting Chancellor Greg Smith gives an address at the San Diego City College commencement ceremony, May 25, 2023. Photo courtesy of San Diego City College Flickr
SDCCD Acting Chancellor Greg Smith presents at the SDCCD Classified Leadership Development Academy Spring/Summer 2023, June 29, 2023. Photo courtesy of SDCCD Flickr
How is the chancellor’s search going?

A: “This fall semester the board will be hopefully completing its search for the district’s next chancellor. So we expect that the application period will close late September, early October. It’s posted on the website … Interviews would be in November and (I’m) very hopeful that at the December board meeting, the board will be making a final selection. So obviously, it would be very exciting to see permanent future leadership in this position for the district and what that ushers in.”

SDCCD Acting Chancellor Greg Smith presents at the SDCCD Classified Leadership Development Academy Spring/Summer 2023, June 29, 2023. Photo courtesy of SDCCD Flickr (David Brooks, SDCCD)
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